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obituaries!!

viola — Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:14:11 GMT

http://www.hbo.com/sixfeetunder/obituary/episode63.shtml

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YouTube

lithuaniandan — Sat, 16 Dec 2006 18:49:56 GMT

Final 10 minutes of the final season..............
I cry..........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=el4eUKmLujg

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New play by Alan bell in NY........

stefographer — Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:23:11 GMT

Wish i had an extra $60.....(but-LO!- there are $20. cheap tix on SUNDAY.... Who wants to go......?? Mad Jack...?? >/end shameless flirt< )

There have been lil' blips about this play in EVERY mag and paper for a few days.......

At first every review i read liked it (the gay mags did, anyway...)... then the MIXED reviews started to come in.....

But i just KNOW there have at least GOT to be some of those breath taking 'Bell' moments of clarity/'reality'/recognition......

Description:
Alan Ball is the creator of HBO's Emmy Award-winning "Six Feet Under" and the Academy Award-winning screenwriter of American Beauty. All That I Will Ever Be is a darkly funny tale of cultural provocation and our eternal search for belonging as seen through the relationship of two young men in contemporary Los Angeles: Dwight, a privileged native Angeleno, and Omar, an enigmatic immigrant from the Middle East. All That I Will Ever Be is directed by Jo Bonney (The Seven at NYTW, the recent revival of subUrbia).

Below are 3 different reviews...... it runs thru March 11th... I'll have to wait till next month..., but i am totally going on a Sun asap......

Theatre Mania site :
http://www.theatermania.com/content/news.cfm/story/10021

New York Times Review :
http://theater2.nytimes.com/2007/02/07/theater/reviews/07work.html?pagewanted=print

NY theatre site :
http://www.nytheatre.com/nytheatre/all4666.htm

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SFU Box Set

katwoman — Wed, 15 Nov 2006 22:52:49 GMT

http://www.amazon.com/Six-Feet-Under-Complete-Gift/dp/B000HEVZBW/ref=cm_lm_fullview_prod_3/104-8279919-7897545

Expensive...but so cool!

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im sure that this thread has done before.. but for kicks

Anesthesiak — Thu, 04 Jan 2007 03:39:38 GMT

What character is MOSt like you? Who did you identify with and see way too much of yourself in?

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"The Lost Room"

Phaedra — Tue, 12 Dec 2006 06:04:26 GMT

Peter Krause is in a new series - "The Lost Room" - on the Sci-Fi channel. Check it out and if you like it - well, I have a tribe for it! Enjoy!

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Hello - I am new to "Under"

lionjill — Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:35:52 GMT

I am a recent 6FU addict. I don't have HBO, so just started watching. Now, of course I am hooked. I am considering investing in the DVD set, but wanted to ask the experts about it - are there lots of good extras that make them worth the $$? I have been able to start watching right from the beginning of the series, so I don't feel I am missing the storyline.....

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How come the Fishers never sold these!?.................

Anesthesiak — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 21:23:09 GMT

http://www.oxfordcoffins.com/index.html

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That 6FU ringtone link.....

stefographer — Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:49:34 GMT

Awhile ago someone lefta link for where they got their 6FU ringtone... I think it was directly from HBO site- but i couldn't find it when i recently looked.....

My firstborn to whoever can leave it here.............

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Any word on 'Nates' new show...???

stefographer — Thu, 30 Nov 2006 22:15:21 GMT

Think it's called the "Lost Room'... on Sc-Fi channel....

Seems to be semi-Twilight Zone-ish.....

Btw- Anybody know how well 'Dexter' is doing, ratings wise- I never liked anything about it....

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Once more..., with feeling....

stefographer — Wed, 06 Sep 2006 01:34:04 GMT

In October Bravo Network starts it's broadcast of 6FU..

I wonder if it'll b altered, or cut in anyway... Does Bravo cut into it's dramas with commercials......... ??

Crap..., probably so,huh....

So now i get to enjoy the ride from the VERY beginning...
I didn't catch 6FU untill the middle of season 2......

The little graphic elements they've added are chessy as all get out.., but how nice to hear those plantive, echoing notes yet again.........

http://www.bravotv.com/Six_Feet_Under/index.shtml

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Dexter

Phaedra — Sat, 14 Oct 2006 22:04:24 GMT

http://tribes.tribe.net/d7d5ff5a-8979-46a8-a306-c100f262de9c?current=tribetopics&set=y#tabs

New tribe for those interested . . .

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Michael C. Hall

Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:53:44 GMT

I just watched a sneak preview a new showtime show called Dexter starring Michael C. Hall, aka David. He plays a serial killer and does that sexual ambiguity thing he hinted at in 6FU so well. All in all I liked it and look forward to seeing it on DVD. Okay, not enough to subscribe to Showtime but enough to watch it.

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Fake episodes

Anesthesiak — Thu, 21 Sep 2006 00:13:41 GMT

"Home"

Season 7 episode 12

The episode before the finale finds Claire distancing herself from Gerald, a model she meets as she has been living in NYC for the past 2 seasons. The episode opens up with her witnessing him shoot a drug dealer while out on the town. Horrified she checks into a hotel where she meets a crazy transexual crackhead hooker named Luscious and Claire goes back to using drugs after 7 months sober. She faces having to testify against Gerald. The whole incident begins to cause Claire anxiety. Claire and David recconect. This brings up Davids past experience with the "red hood"guy. David rushes to NY to help Claire deal with this. David is also emotionally wrought over Kieths reccent admition of an afair with one of his employees at his newly started Security company. Kieth back in LA welcomes his Niece into their home as she has run away from grandparents because her mother died in episode 3. Ruth has a conversation with sarah about telling Claire that she is Sarahs Daughter..... Sarah contemplates telling Claire herself. Brenda is proposed to by Richard and excepts. Nate tells Brenda she can marry....again....and she has a scene where she tosses her wedding ring to the ocean at Nates request.... he tells her "go home." and Brenda does so....and runs into Richards arms. Kieth tells his young black employee who he slept with that it's over and he resist. The employee...Derrick question Kieth and his his choice of partnering and building a family with a white man. And after long intense coustody battle Maggie shows up at Ruths door with her Grandson.. Daniel Eric. Maggie had denied her child was Nathanial for the longest. This was Maggies "miracle"child...after she lost a child a long time ago (if you remember). Maggie tells Ruth she doesnt have long to live.

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Most 'Powerful' episode ever ...

stefographer — Mon, 18 Sep 2006 01:08:16 GMT

Thanks to my local public(are there any other kind,btw....lol) library i'm re-watching the first season, which i had never actually caught. I didn't start watching, or getting intto 6FU, until around the end of season 2....

Knowing how attached i became over time, it's so interesting to see how the show has dveloped...
What 'tricks' and aspecs it 'let go' of (those thin, silly-ish advertisments for funerary products...), but also how it REALLY became an amazing exploration of the same few charecters it had at the outset.....

I am struck by the episode titled "Familia" .....

Absolute usual genuis level mix of all the best ... i wound up laughing as tears rolled down my cheeks ...
It just strikes me sometimes how insightful some writers/directors can be with the charecters they use....
How David was impressed and changed by his 'interactions' with the dead Paco...

"Familia" has pretty much jumped to the head of my fave episode list...
What 'sodes head your list ...?

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Those lame Emmys

Jamus — Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:02:41 GMT

What are final shovel in the pile on top o' the grave. No Emmy. And 24? Keifer has really got the mantle of this gen's Harrison Ford in the bag with his depth on that monotonous show.

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best death?

wonderbreadsoul — Mon, 19 Sep 2005 10:14:18 GMT

Every so often, I get reminded of the rapture/blow-up-doll death scene last season on 6FU. A scene such as this perfectly shows why I love this series so much, and why it will be so missed.

What's everyone else's opinion of the best death scene that started the show each week?

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" I am small .., I'm needy.. Warm me up...

stefographer — Sun, 30 Jul 2006 01:49:04 GMT

....And breathe me ... "

Every season the promos got better...
Fitting then that to me the promo for the last year was the best....

My fave parts..

1. Momma Fisher playing with the wind outside her window with her hand....

2. David seeing Kieth stop a car in the uniform of his old job....

3. Rico watching a car of him and Vanessa go by as the used to be..., happy....

4. Poor Brenda not even being able to START her car.., until it seems she just relaxes a lil' bit....

http://www.hbo.com/scripts/video/vidplayer.html?movie=/av/sfu/season5/sfu_lshoot_trailer

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And I'm feeeeeeelin' gooooooood.....

stefographer — Sun, 30 Jul 2006 01:29:15 GMT

Being a LONG time fan of Nina Simone... this promo cemented 6FU's place in my heart........

http://www.hbo.com/av/sfu/season4/sfu_trailer_ref.mov

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Why did I connect SO strongly with this show.....

stefographer — Wed, 19 Jul 2006 21:25:23 GMT

Just finished watching the 3rd season again.....

I have liked several shows over the years... But i REALLY can't think of any that affect me and made me REALLY FEEL , like this show...

I MISS not having NEW things to hear Claire and Nate say and experience and DEFINITELY miss Kieth and David (just about the MOST real depiction of gay dudes that i could relate to EVER)...

Anybody read or know of any essays or critiques that examine this show on an interesting 'egghead' kinda level... ???

I'm dying to know what 'it' was about this show that clicked for me so much.....

It's gotta be more than just the 'realness' of the cahrecters(altho i CAN'T think of any other TV charecters that seemed MORE real to me...)..., and the death at the beginning gimmick wasn't even a constant....

I'd like to read something by someone smarter than me about 6 Feet... Anybody know of anything anywhere ...?

Or just tell me what YOU think it was about this show that resonated so strongly for YOU.....

I STILL cry and am put in a highly introspective, reflective mood for DAYS when i watch the last 10 mins of the final episode.......

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Spin Off's

Anesthesiak — Thu, 27 Jul 2006 06:03:01 GMT

I posted this a while back but i start a fresh new thread.....

Spin off ideas?

~I always though Claires Art school chums should had their show. Which art school has never been the sole setting of television show. Anita, Russel, Jimmy and the rest of the gang. Add new characters...you have yourself a show.

~Father Jack. Take him....focus an hour long dramady on a Catholic Church and the people who drift in an out. Center it on faith and new characters who attend the church. Add in two major families who are polar opposites attending the same Church Father Jack presides over. Add in some neurosis...drama...sex....homosexuality....drygs.... you have yourself a provocative tv show.

~Birth... how about a show that is six feet in reverse. Centers around a hospitals delivery department....open up every scene with a new life and we follow their lives ....... major characters are doctors..... the same hospital Nate died in. First episode takes place on the night Nate died....and the doctors involved.... or maybe ties in Willas birth.

OR better yet...

Give Rachel Griffiths her own show....her life post Nate...raising Maya and Willa alone......

Your Turn.

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The Last Seasons' DVD....

stefographer — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:05:26 GMT

Is my understanding correct that it's ONLY available as a huge, all inclusive 5 (?) disc set.., as opposed to several dual disc sets, with a few episodes each dvd...?

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Last 10 minutes of the Last show

flibbertigibit — Mon, 24 Jul 2006 22:27:31 GMT

My interpretation of the last part of the show is that all the deaths were just Claire free wheeling imagining all these possible demises for entertainment while she drives. What got me thinking this way was Claire at the end on her death bed blind. Only her ironic turn of mind would fashion this somewhat poetic outcome for herself.

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Just getting to like Claire now.........

stefographer — Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:03:12 GMT

Re-watching the 3rd season, and for kinda the first time really starting to appreciate the charecter Claire.

While 6FU was running, i spent alot of time somewhat(not actively, mind u) disliking alot of Claire charecteristics....
She was often striking me as way too selfish and self absorbed, and somehow just kinda whinny.....

But somehow now and lately, she's actually become a favored charecter of mine.....
Theres really always been alot more to her than i was seeing before...

BTW.., did she ever tell anyone about het abortion..? Can't remember....

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Ted = Jar Jar

>>J*A*5*|*N<< — Mon, 29 May 2006 22:35:41 GMT

My roomate & I finally just finished the final episode of the fifth season of our beloved Six Feet Under.
A show which, despite some flaws I intend to detail later, has been an unforgettable pleasure in many regards, the least of which NOT being exeptional writing as well as exemplary character development.
It would be a *grave* understatement to say the series has moved me.
Nate Fisher damn near became a role model for awhile, nearly prompting me top craft a line of bumper stickers which read "What Would Nate Do?"
I could continue to extrapolate on the finer qualities of this show which we love so much, but, that doesn't make for very spicy type, much less explain why I've chosen to opine, online, with a few, well, ONE major problem I had with the series.
So now that I've substantiated my commitment to our dear TV SHOW, in addition to kickin' down with some 25 cent words, here goes.

TED really, as in <<REALLY>>... Sucks the BIG ONE.

He damn near ruined the entire series for me and here's why.
Calire, gets mired up in a bullshit office environment rife with innuendoes and surface catch phrases, a place where, if the development of her character meant a thing, she should have shuddered the biggest *ICK* the world has ever heard and run for the hills with the echoes of "Yeah babay!" drowning in the distance.
But instead, she sticks around for abit, and ends up fucking the lowest scum on the planet. Even lower than insurance agents. A lawyer.

Suffice to say, every appearance of Ted, even the mere mention of his name began to elicit grudging moans as the series ran out.
Sure some say that Ted was a great guy for hanging around during Claire's moment of strife, but does anyone actually believe that this frat boy was really there for anything other than to get laid??
It seemed more the case that the second Claire was in distress, Ted appeared to have hit the jackpot. He was REALLY gonna get laid then.
A despicable turn of events. I mean, this is the worst thing to happen to cute red-heads since Sixteen Candles!! It's an oturage!! AAgghhagagahh!!!

But seriously though, I was just mentioning to my roomate at the start of the final episode, how SFU sholdn't end. All they needed was to introduce some glib, incidental character to the mix to milk another couple of seasons out of it, y'know, like The Great Gazzoo on The Flintstones, or Poochie The Dog from The Simpsons, and that's when it hit me.
TED is that incidental, worthless, tumor, extra appendage excuse for a character.
It's quite obvious that he was written in very late in the game as a sort of consolation prize to the Red States. Like their ratings dropped for Aunt Sarah's comments and this was a sort of obligatory bone they felt they should throw out to the very confused republican types who had watched the show for years only to vote against gay marriage in record numbers.
What do they matter?

So Ted only gets worse when he gives Claire the CD labeled "most unhip CD ever" or something to that effect. This, from a man whom has freely admitted his affinity for really bad top 40 as well as contemoprary christian rock.
This CD does not go straight to the garbage. It does not immediately become the coaster it was burned to become.
No. This CD lurks in the shadows until what moment? That's right. The most important part of the ENTIRE FIVE YEAR SERIES!
The final retrospective is scored by the musings of an admitted tasteless man.
Granted, the music wasn't bad. It ended up being quite good. But knowing what it was from the moment Claire put the CD in, I was on edge the entire time, waiting for the voices of Rob Thomas, DC Talk, Shania Twain, or fucking Scott Stapp to come oozing through the speakers.

All in all, I hate Ted because his character was created with more demographics in mind than that of the characters they had so painstakenly crafted for so long.
Much like Jar Jar Binks of Star Wars infame, he was an entirely unecessary, unwelcome addition to an already solid cast and plotline and he damn near brought the whole thing down.

That is all, thank you and goodnight.
Feel free to commence with the standard character assasinations and grammar fascism inherent to the blog-o-sphere.

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Sia - Breathe Me

KaoS — Tue, 31 Jan 2006 03:02:36 GMT

In case anyone wanted to download it. :)

http://www.palmsout.com/blog/Breathe%20Me.mp3

(right click save as)

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Anita

margeauxmerlot — Sun, 28 May 2006 17:49:47 GMT

Is Claire's art school friend Anita played by Robin Tunney?

Anybody know?

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The SAME Voice

margeauxmerlot — Thu, 11 May 2006 14:14:14 GMT

Has anybody noticed that Peter Krause (Nate) and David Boreanz of "Angel" and "Bones" have the same voice. They are both hotties, and they can whisper sweet nothings in my ear with THAT same voice!

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Previously on Six Feet Under

wonderbreadsoul — Tue, 09 May 2006 06:31:49 GMT

Hello everybody,

I was watching a re-run of SFU the other day. I think it was the first episode of the fourth season. In any case, the "previously on Six Feet Under" segment where they showed what happened in the previous season was extra-long and was giving me chills to watch it again.

I then realized how much I missed hearing that song in the background during those scenes.... with the gangly guitar part and the the electronic bass and drums underneath. Does anyone know who the artist is, or where I could get a copy of that track?

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YOUR Opening sequence...

gangsterboyscout — Fri, 14 Oct 2005 16:15:36 GMT

... or your own personal Final 15 Minutes segment.

www.thedeathpsychic.com/

I miss you guys!

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This is what I find interesting....

NaughtyKitty — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:53:57 GMT

The show's over, it's not coming back.

Ever.

And we are all still here.

I was thinking about this last night. I really miss it. When Carnivale ended, I left the tribe. But I just can't dump this one. Why is that?

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I was an addict of SFU and still have to wait 1 month to see the last season...ARGH!!!

sapphirah — Mon, 06 Mar 2006 22:27:49 GMT

OK. When I discovered SFU last winter, I became an addict. I watched the first 4 seasons in less than 4 weeks. See, I had to rent them because I don't have cable or satellite. So I haven't seen the last season yet. It comes out in DVD at the end of this month. God! I have been waiting a n entire year to see the last season. I have to say, my favorite season was the second season. The third season was not as impressive but I guess they had do do a lot of character development to get to the next level (Season). Any of you share the same thoughts or different ones?

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favorite seasons..

troy — Fri, 09 Sep 2005 20:42:56 GMT

Why not?

The first season was a masterpeice. Nothing will ever top it. It was very edgy and raw. The deaths were all shocking and often horrible. The Fishers were all out of wack from the very beginning from Nate Sr.'s death. Brenda was a deep, deep mystery. The ongoing takeover from the corperate mortuary company kept things interesting.

Second favorite season? The last.

Third favorte? Second season.

The other seasons were sort of forgettable, IMHO.

-troy

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Some thoughs this new year of the family Fisher

BarryKeller — Sun, 08 Jan 2006 06:25:37 GMT

http://kellersaid.blogspot.com/2006/01/question-of-how-you-live.html

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Legacy - Old UPN TV Show

Dominique — Tue, 03 Jan 2006 15:43:27 GMT

I'm looking for the entire series of Legacy on DVD/VHS. Any ideas??

This show aired for 1 season 1998-1999.

Thanks
"D"

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Help me remember a name of a tv series...PLEASE

wendy — Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:31:51 GMT

Does anyone remember the tv series of a black family with a dad and mom and kids. One of the kids on the show was a little cute chubby black boy.I know this isnt much info, but it is driving my crazy. Thanks!

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Rumor Has It

saraharmonylove — Tue, 27 Dec 2005 05:59:29 GMT

So they say that movie Rumor Has It is about The Graduate. Truth be known, it is simply and truly about SFU. So obvious: 3, yes t-h-r-e-e SFU actors are in it. Nate senior- and he's not this ghost dude anylonger, he's a living breathing mofo. Then there's Claire's lezzy lova- mena suvari doing the worst acting job of her life. She was so much better as the hot lezzie. Then there is Bettina, with a 2 minute cameo and platinum hair.
Those hollywood foo's be clever. They make a movie proposing to be about a movie from the sixties, and secretly- but obvious to us sleuths, everything leans towards SFU. Awwwwww

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Jeremy Sisto

Dina — Tue, 06 Sep 2005 06:49:03 GMT

ok so I just bought one of my favorite movies on DVD-"Clueless"-and while watching it last night I noticed that one of the characters is played by a VERY young Jeremy Sisto....the Last time I watched Clueless I didn't know who Jeremy Sisto was, so it was kinda funny to see him pop up....If you need your Billy fix, and a very cool movie to boot, check it out!

ON a sidenote-I noticed that he was one of the only people from the movie not to participate in the extras...hmmm....perhaps he was too busy wrapping up SFU?

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Season 5 DVD's???

Sat, 10 Dec 2005 17:59:05 GMT

does anyone know when the 5th season is available on DVD? i just finished watching the 4th season and it's killing me!! even though i've already seen most of the 5th...it still matters.

r.r.r.

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TV show "soap"

Gee — Mon, 28 Nov 2005 09:19:28 GMT

I am interested in trying to obtain a full set of vcr tapes of this show, does anyone have an idea where it might be available

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Speaking of season five....

poppyhead — Sat, 29 Oct 2005 21:34:05 GMT

any word on when it's released to DVD?

i heard rumors about november, but that seems early for HBO.

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copies of season 5

saraharmonylove — Mon, 24 Oct 2005 03:47:10 GMT

would anybody be willing to share their copies of season 5 with me???? Sara

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SFU Nod on Crossing Jordon

Wed, 19 Oct 2005 04:03:14 GMT

Lily (the mourge greif counsoler) had to get the wife of the deceased to sign some paperwork.
So that his body could be realeased to Fisher and Sons

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... the final 15 minutes

Jamus — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 13:38:51 GMT

I became almost instantly addicted to 6FU as hands down, the most original, thought provoking and "real" TV series I've seen. I spent the past few years thoroughly rapt with a wonderful combo of laughter tears with each ensuing episode -- and thrown into a depressive state if I missed one -- the final 15 minute montage was so dissapointing as Claire's drives to NYC intercut with a montage of key players fast forward rap up. It was nothing but a slick but pat commercial TV denouement.

I've not written in hear in while simply because I had little time to read all the great posts -- and was too flooded with emotions with too damn much to say about it all. But this last 15 minutes was the only cop out in a stellar series. Between the cheesy aged make-up, unmemorable hackneyed situations (Ruth looking like a hag seeing Nate from her hospital bed, George sobbing, Keith getting shot in an armored car heist...oh please). It would've been better to fade to white with Nate doing the iPod switch dance or whatever that was. Completely and totally forgettable.

There, have I stirred things up at all?

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Series Retropective:The Characters

Anesthesiak — Tue, 13 Sep 2005 20:36:19 GMT

Hold on. This Tribe isn't dead yet. Actually there's an after life i believe, now that we have been apart of the last 5 years of the Fisher's, The Diaz's, The Chenowith's and George and Maggie Sibly's lives, we can reflect and gain more prespective, hence hindsight is always 20/20. It's like you've seen the event open, slowly unfold and then close. Now let's share insight into the characters of SFU and what we learned from them.

___________________

Brenda: I think Brenda appeals to the element inside of us that is deeply damaged and scathed, but extremely aware of that and wants better. The part of ourselves that struggles with insecurity and has trouble believing that we are deserving of more than what was handed us. Brenda was quite fortunate, in a sense she grew up with parents who made a more than decent living, but she was exposed to too much to fast. Prehaps she even felt she had no real childhood and prehaps that fueled her desire for children later on.

Perhaps she clung to Billy and vice versa because in being rather sheltered in terms of their upbringing they both found solace and understanding in eachother. The nuerosis they felt they were given by their parents could'nt be understood by anyone dating them, or befriending them, readily. Billy sought out the art world as he way of personal connection, and Brenda found friendships with people somewhat on the frindge like the the high class call girl, and found understanding and freedom from the alienation that hovered over her head. Surely people like drugs addicts and Prostitutes would understand me?

Brenda addiction to Betrayl and hard time maintaining relationships of the closer kind were a direct result of the alienation her childhood bred. She sought sex with strangers and drugs as an attempt to connect through disconnection and it caused her more bruises. And she wanted out of that.

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George sighting

troy — Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:48:01 GMT

Watching a Magnum, PI rerun... "Photo Play" episode. A younger George is a French customs officer. Hilarious!

-troy

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R>I.P the deaths we didnt see....

Anesthesiak — Fri, 02 Sep 2005 05:37:46 GMT

Claire's "fantasy" or Not....let's reflect and speculate on how all the other characters Died.

As I imagined in another thread Russel dies a woman, He names himself Claire after his sex change and Marries a miserable Anita, who goes onto porn after failing in the art world. Anita and "Claire" raise wild apes in the San Fernando Valley....Three of Anita beloved apes tear her limp from limp and eat her in her kitchen, when transexual Russel finds her, and take pictures of the blood bath. He becomes famous on Anita's demise and dies later from an infection due to his ruptured implants. He stalks Claire in sporatic episodes throughout his carear as an eccentric scupture/photographer and writer.

Anita ~1982~2027
Russel/"Claire"~1983-2059

i was bored.

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The Highlights of season five

Anesthesiak — Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:22:00 GMT

I just started to watch season five again. I recerded the marathon a few weeks ago and hesitated watching...but I jumped back into the show slowly. I watching a show or two a day.

In retrospectionof the fine season that was five Post you season highlights!

i'll start with "a coat of white primer"

_____________________________

BRENDA"S FACE OFF WITH LISA

After her wedding Brenda goes to pop a pill and knock back a full champagne glass, She engages in a stand-off with a dead woman.

Lisa: ".....It all came very naturally to me, Because i was always Maternal. Unlike you..."

Brenda: "I'm fucking maternal."

Lisa: "Oh come on. I mean, look at your past."

Brenda: "What about my past?"

Lisa: "You're a slut Bag. Well, You were."

Brenda: (Matter of factly rolls her eyes and shrugs) "Thats got nothing to with it."

Lisa: "Of Course it Does. All the moments of your life have lead to this one. You're being punished.

Brenda: "I don't believe in that."

Lisa: "Your insides must have gotten Damaged from all that announymous cock. Oh Come on. That's why this Happened to you."

(elapsed time in conversation...Lisa points out various wedding guest who are pregnant and have children. Lisa gloats on the wonders of motherhood, Taunting Brenda, to which Brenda replies......)

"I'm gonna get my baby, Bitch."

Precious.

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Six Feet Over

CurvyCurvz — Sun, 11 Sep 2005 07:35:09 GMT

Had to be said.

But, for those of you who have Comcast On Demand.

Cc has heard a rumor that sooner, rather than later, CCOD will begin showing all of 6FU from the very beginning.

In their usual series of 6-8 at a time, of course.

Cheers~!

ps~

I still miss Nate

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i saw Kieth on Fox!!!

Anesthesiak — Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:36:14 GMT

ok not exactly Kieth....Mathew St.Patrick. on the premire of a lame "teen" drama called Reunion. He'll always be Kieth to me, Lauren Ambrose will always be Claire.... and the rest.

It's great to see he jumped straight onto another project. He was playing a COP AGAIN. So In watching the show, I just imagined this was Kieth, in another demension, rejoining the force as a detective solving a case backwards. The show isnt really good but i'm oddly compelled to watch and brainwash myself into this convienent fantasy. It helps. *sniff*

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Weeds

troy — Fri, 09 Sep 2005 20:38:58 GMT

Anyone watching Weeds on showtime? its a pretty good drama. Its about a widowed suburban pot-dealer. Of course not as good as SFU, but a decent drama to watch each week with a basis in the taboo.

-troy

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Now what? RIP, 6FU tribe?

Jamus — Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:17:56 GMT

Man, like that's it? We're reduced to critiquing the show that is dancing on the Fisher's grave! Say it aint so!?!

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Fan Favorite Episode

vickicunningham — Wed, 07 Sep 2005 01:36:19 GMT

The favorite episode polling has closed. No re-count is necessary. The episode that received the most votes will be aired on HBO 2 on Tuesday, September 6th, 2005 at 10:30 PM ET! Don't miss an exclusive Alan Ball interview introducing the episode and explaining why it meant so much to him!

I just saw this in my e-mails from HBO "the Eulogy" and it's on in an hour. Yay!

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Everyone's Waiting

wingdzell — Mon, 22 Aug 2005 02:16:51 GMT

I can't think of a more perfect way to end something like Six Feet Under. I feel happy but drained. I think I need a nap.

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CSI episode

colleen — Tue, 06 Sep 2005 23:26:39 GMT

how would I find the story line to a CSI episode?

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Who's watching Rome?

Anesthesiak — Thu, 01 Sep 2005 03:04:45 GMT

Amongst the most die hard of SFU'ers here, Who gave Rome a shot last sunday?

I recorded it , and watched it last night. It's A History professors wet dream. I'm too disgruntled still to give it a fair shot.

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the end of a beautiful show

Robby — Fri, 02 Sep 2005 18:22:53 GMT

this series helped me to realize im not the only person who has problems, i saw a part of me in each of the characters...it sucks that its gone....any 1 else feel like this?

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letting go

Anesthesiak — Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:56:14 GMT

I find myself in stages of actual grieving for this show. First stage shock, detachment, a second stage tears....I'm utterly surprised and then another round of sinking in, disbelief "I can not believe a show this good will not grace our TV screens anytime soon. And then this morning was surreal because I had an actual dream involving SFU, that was quite stirring.

It involved the house I grew up in. It's no longer in possession of my family and sometimes when I'm in the town I grew up in, I will pass by. Many happy and sad childhood memories live there in that house.

What I remember of the dream is that there was a going away party, various friends of grandmother and mother, grand dad all in attendance walking up the drive way as I sat outside on the front lawn ..............with Claire Fisher and her stuff in her lime green hearse. We cried together and held onto each other. The people leaving, all people I've known, some people as I remember I had not seen since I was a kid, waved goodbye to us and drove off. I remember begging Claire not leave with me...and I went inside my house and got objects that were mine, specifically a Bow of my note books that I kept when 14 and wrote kiddie poetry in along with homework I never turned in. I gave her that box with my favorite magic 8 ball. It was like I was giving her pieces of myself. The house was empty....I remember wind, and the last image was the lime green hearse actually deconstructing, it's hood and doors flying off. Until it was stripped bare. She said....."I gotta go before I can't drive my car anymore." Sorta got wizard of OZ ish.

I woke up frosty, clinging to that dream and I've been thinking about it ALL day.I've my Freud and Jung books on dreams out.

hehh. Wow.

anyone else having problems, letting go?

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What did Nate mean?

Tube_Amp — Sat, 27 Aug 2005 02:58:31 GMT

As Claire was leaving for New York, She held her camera up to take a picture of David, Keith the boys and her mother. Nate appeared again and said "You can't take a picture of this; it's already gone". Help me, everytime I see it I'm too emotional to figure it out. What did Nate mean?

-Still crying in Philadelphia.....

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Keith & David adopt foster kids

MyBodyIsATemple — Thu, 25 Aug 2005 01:43:39 GMT

The best line in the last episode was when David thanked the kids for coming into their lives and making them a family.

You can see profiles of adoptable kids here:

http://www.adoptuskids.org/servlet/page?_pageid=186&_dad=portal30&_schema=PORTAL30

I really hope David & Keith start a trend!

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Ruth....

Dina — Sat, 27 Aug 2005 20:49:09 GMT

So I came home last night and flipped the channels....damnit if the last episode wasn't on!!!! I was doing so well too, slowly returning to normal after being so sad all week. Anyway it was the scene where Ruth is at George's apartment and she's asking about Maggie....George responds in that condescending way of his, and Ruth goes "Now George, don't talk to me like you're my father!!" and later tells him that she can't move in with him cause he has all those walls around his heart...I was so proud of Ruth telling George (in a roundabout way) to go to hell!

Then came the next scene where David, Keith, and the boys were at the dinner table and david was saying thanks for the boys coming into their life, and I just lost it.....waaaaaaaa......

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Call Fisher & Sons or Diaz?

Jamus — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:32:06 GMT

What now? Is there a pending obit for this tribe?

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i'm already dreading this sunday.............

CoPPeRsGyPsYaNgeL — Fri, 26 Aug 2005 01:06:14 GMT

:( sniffle sniffle

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Six Feet Under collectibles

Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:15:15 GMT

Hi!

I'm not sure if you're aware but for those of you in San Francisco/Bay Area they are carrying props for the show at Out of the Closet at the South of Market location including the Fisher fridge and sofa and so on. I was just there today and got a set of plastic tumblers. Now you too can own your own little piece of the show. And it goes for Aids research.

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maggie....was a scene cut?

theshaman — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:51:37 GMT

Probably plenty of speculation has been had on this subject....was Maggie pregnant? Was that why her final scene was in a doctor's office?

Simply a what if argument at this point...maybe that plot arc hit the cutting room floor.

Ultimately I am glad they left it alone...Maggie pisse me off anyways

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Music

Wed, 24 Aug 2005 17:56:49 GMT

You can get all the music from the last episode (I think) off of Itunes for 12.99. It includes Breathe Me which, because I still haven't taken the time to learn filesharing, is not really available. FYI

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comcast quality issues?

troy — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 03:45:41 GMT

Hi all, the final six feet under was all messed up on my Comcast digital cable. entourage too. it has been happening for awhile.. only that station (HBO west, 551). Everything else works fine. Just curious if anyone else has this problem. thanks! -troy

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R I P

dannyb — Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:52:10 GMT

Ruth O'Connor Fisher

Ruth Fisher was born in Pasadena in 1946 and died at Good Samaritan Hospital of Glendale on Wednesday. She graduated from Pasadena High School in 1963 and stayed home to raise three children before opening the Four Paws Pet Retreat in Topanga Canyon twenty years ago.

She is survived by her loving companion George Sibley, her sister Sarah O'Connor, her son David Fisher of Los Angeles and her daughter Claire Fisher of New York City. Ruth will also be missed by her four cherished grandchildren - Maya Fisher, Willa Chenowith, and Anthony and Durrell Charles-Fisher.

Viewing will be held on Saturday, March 15th at 2 p.m. at Fisher & Sons Funeral Home at 2302 W. 25th Street in Los Angeles. Private burial to follow.

Keith Dwayne Charles

Keith Charles, founder of Charles Security Company, was born in 1968 in San Diego. He died suddenly at work on Tuesday morning.

Keith attended West Point Military Academy, graduating with a degree in Criminology in 1989. He served the city of Los Angeles as a member of the LAPD for nine years before joining the security industry. He leaves behind his devoted husband David Fisher and loving sons Durrell and Anthony Charles-Fisher, his grandson Matthew, his sister Karla Charles and his niece Taylor Benoit of Carlsbad. Keith is pre-deceased by his parents Roderick and Lucille Charles of San Diego. Memorial service will be held on Sunday, February 18th at 2 p.m. at Fisher & Sons Funeral Home at 2302 W. 25th Street in Los Angeles.

David James Fisher

Born January 20, 1969. Died at the age of 75 in Echo Park. He was proud owner and operator of Fisher & Sons Funeral Home of Los Angeles for over forty years. After retiring in 2034, he went on to perform in dozens of local theater productions, including Weill and Brecht's "Threepenny Opera," Rossini's "The Barber of Seville," and as Ebenezer Scrooge in Dickens' "A Christmas Carol." David leaves behind his partner Raoul Martinez, his beloved sons Durrell and Anthony Charles-Fisher, his sister Claire Fisher and his three precious grandchildren Matthew, Keith, and Katie. In lieu of flowers, donations can be made to the Southern California Opera Association

Hector Federico Diaz

Died at the age of 75 while vacationing with his wife in Puerto Rico. Federico graduated from Cyprus College in 1997 with a degree in Mortuary Science. He worked as a restorative artist for several years before becoming part owner of Fisher & Diaz Funeral Home on 25th Street. In 2005, Federico opened the Diaz Family Mortuary on DeLongpre Avenue in Hollywood, where he served the community for 35 years before retiring.

Pre-deceased by his parents Mauricio and Lilia Diaz of Los Angeles. He was married to his beloved wife Vanessa for 54 years and leaves behind his cherished sons Julio and Augusto and his three grandchildren: Emily, Celestina and Vincent.

Memorial service will be held at Diaz Family Mortuary on Saturday, February 16th at 11:00 a.m. Funeral mass will be held at 9:30 a.m. the following day at St. Paul's Catholic Church in Atwater Village.

Brenda Chenowith

Brenda Chenowith was born July 19, 1969 and died at the age of 82 at home. She earned her Masters Degree in Social Work at California State University of Los Angeles and a PhD in Theories of Human Behavior at University of Southern California.

Brenda wrote several books about the role of the gifted child in family development. She is considered to be one of the most distinguished scholars in that field of study, adding several courses to the Social Work curriculum at USC. She developed research methodologies to conclusively prove the link between deviant human behavior and fetal alcohol exposure. As a child, Brenda was the subject of the book "Charlotte Light and Dark" by Gareth Feinberg, PhD.

Brenda will be dearly missed by her beloved children Maya Fisher, Willa Chenowith, and Forrest Nathanson, her loving husband Daniel Nathanson, and her brother William Chenowith of Malibu. Private services will be held Wednesday March 9th at Deep Creek Nature Preserve. In lieu of flowers, donations may be made to a charity of your choice.

Claire Simone Fisher
1983 - 2085

Born March 13, 1983. Died February 11, 2085 in Manhattan. Claire grew up in Los Angeles and studied art at LAC-Arts College. She worked as an advertising and fashion photographer and photojournalist for nearly fifty years, creating several memorable covers for Washington Post magazine, W, and The Face. Claire often exhibited her work in New York and London art galleries and in a time when nearly everyone else in her field had turned to digital scanning and computer-driven imaging, she continued to use a silver-based photographic process. Claire began teaching photography as a faculty member at New York University's Tisch School of the Arts in 2018, earning tenure in 2028. She's pre-deceased by her beloved husband Ted Fairwell.

http://www.hbo.com/sixfeetunder/obituary/episode63.shtml

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That last song...

theshaman — Tue, 23 Aug 2005 18:37:55 GMT

Just heard it again on KCRW....nice tune

What was the artist and title? I apologize if this has already been asked.

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Brenda and Billy - the epilogue

phreddd — Mon, 22 Aug 2005 15:26:20 GMT

He was SO psychobabbling on about Ted when Brenda passed on.

BTW, I'd never seen being bored to death - literally - depicted so well.

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Anybody willing to host a viewing of Episode 63?

Mon, 22 Aug 2005 15:23:44 GMT

yes, i missed it. do i deserve a chance to see it? i hope somebody out there thinks so and organizes a viewing.

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[Spoiler] Gay Topics

Tue, 23 Aug 2005 08:37:18 GMT

At Clair and Ted's wedding, the youngest of the adopted Fisher boys is holding hands with another man who is Asian. It was probably the younger one. The olde one appeared to take over Fisher & Sons.
Also, while some call David and Keith's ceremony a "union", in California with the current court batttles,Ii interpreted it as a lawful wedding set somewhere in the near future. Since Alan Ball is gay and the ACLU with Alan Ball in attendance held a party at Forever Hollywood, the cemetary where a lot of it was shot and close to the Sunset Gower studios, I am sure he interpreted that way. California does not have unions. It has Domestic Partnerships and only notaries can enter them for a gay or lesbian couple.

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Doctor My Eyes...

Christy — Mon, 22 Aug 2005 06:32:00 GMT

Perhaps it is just because I'm a Jackson Browne fanatic but I LOVED their using "Doctor My Eyes" playing in the background while Bettina, her daughter and Ruth were drinking wine and trying to decide what Ruth should do with her life...

That song, if you know the lyrics, is perfect for Ruth...and her finally awakening from her self supression.

This series was brilliant with it's musical choices...again and again...

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the special guest? Reese Witherspoon?

tarag — Mon, 22 Aug 2005 04:42:26 GMT

I swear that was Reese Witherspoon playing bettina's daughter. I didnt watch the credits at the end. Anyone?
It really looked like her all made up and sounded like Reese.

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The countdown begins!!!

Thu, 18 Aug 2005 01:36:11 GMT

Only 4 more nights away until it's Six Feet Over!!! :-(

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Eulogies

Anesthesiak — Mon, 22 Aug 2005 00:09:30 GMT

This Thread is reserved for anything anyone has to say about our dearly beloved Six Feet Under. This spot is reserved for all our personal fairwells.

*Unlocks Velvet rope and opens podium for those who wish to speak*

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Thanks for all the pictures!

vickicunningham — Sun, 21 Aug 2005 03:43:51 GMT

I just looked at all the pictures people posted for our tribe. I was getting kind of teary . . .
. . . but then I came upon Maggie's picture and saw the caption and laughed my ass off!! Thanks for the comic relief! -I think I can guess which one of you posted that :)

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Their faces are coming off.

Anesthesiak — Mon, 15 Aug 2005 02:40:47 GMT

"My face is coming off." Davids line was excuted with this soft brutality. I became sort of unhindged then. This episode was exactly it's title. Static! The fall out after Nates death was far reaching indeed, pushing each and every character back notches. Alot of scenes were emotionally difficult to watch.

Claire nearly died, and walked out of crash (that would killed anyone else if were located in the first 2-3 minutes of show) unscathed. I didnt even count a scratch or visable bruise. I argued with my mom after the show about Brenda keeping Maya. I think Maya would only become a casualty of Brenda's darker corners and Nate's mistakes.

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brenda and billy

Mon, 15 Aug 2005 20:17:08 GMT

is anyone else secretly hoping that they do end up running away to nova scotia together?

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Brenda and Billy - the dream???

Wed, 17 Aug 2005 02:31:49 GMT

Okay, I have a thought...

At the end of "All Alone" Brenda is in all black and falls into BIlly's sympathetic lurking arms...
When "Static" airs she has the dream about her and Billy and she is wearing all black in the dream when she walks to the bed to sit down...

So when Brenda was dreaming was she remembering an incident that really happened,
(now I'm not saying they went further than what was showed in Brenda's dream nor am I assuming they didn't go any further than what was shown in the dream) or was it just a dream caused by Nate's words to her in the elevator...

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anyone in NYC (5 boros) having a "Six Feet Under" fete at their place???

Mon, 15 Aug 2005 18:50:56 GMT

just curious, cause it would be fun...

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"In Memoriam" is a 2 parter - 8/15 and 8/21 before final episode...

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:24:11 GMT

Don't miss a a two-part Six Feet Under 2001-2005 "In Memorian" special which airs at 8 p.m. on 8/15 and 8/21 (before the Finale).

From the previews of this, it looks like an excellent recap of the show's history from all points of view.

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finale

CurvyCurvz — Tue, 16 Aug 2005 07:03:47 GMT

spoiler information

http://forums.televisionwithoutpity.com/index.php?showtopic=2356518&st=1785

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claires total breakdown......

CoPPeRsGyPsYaNgeL — Mon, 15 Aug 2005 02:24:44 GMT

wow.

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carnival music and david's face

CurvyCurvz — Mon, 15 Aug 2005 13:55:56 GMT

set up:

the scene where david has told the boys he put the pizza under the broiler to cook the cheese -- his ptsdfantasy of door pounding and subsequent breaking in of narmnate stabbing the older boy.

when david finally gets back to reality and starts yelling at the boys who are telling him the pizza is burning. keith comes in wanting to know wtf is going on.

hysterical moment:

carnival music (from the tv) playing and david does a 'doh!' double take.

too fucking funny.

god i am gonna miss this show!

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taboo???

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:18:43 GMT

Nate urges Brenda to embrace a taboo!?!

Brenda and Billy?!?

Wow, I have to say, Nate should acquired a strong voice for himself post-mortem, much stronger than when he was alive. Too bad...

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Vote for your favorite episode of Six Feet out of 5 episodes...

Tue, 16 Aug 2005 01:35:31 GMT

Vote for your favorite episode of Six Feet from the the five finalists of all five seasons. Cast your votes by August 21st. The episode that receives the most votes will be aired on HBO 2 on Tuesday, September 6th, 2005 at 9PM ET!

What is your favorite episode of Six Feet Under?

Pilot 27%
It's the Most Wonderful Time if the Year 11%
I'm Sorry, I'm Lost 14%
Untitled 13%
Ecotone 35%

are the poll results as of 8/15 @ 9:46 pm...

I voted for Ecotone...

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guest on last episode?

wonderbreadsoul — Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:24:48 GMT

I had read an article in THE WEEK magazine around the time they started filming this season that said there was a special guest on the last episode. They had asked Bill Clinton to do it, but he apparently wanted too much money. So, they started looking to find another *special guest* to appear in the last episode. Does anyone know if they found someone else? Rumors, etc?

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opening credits...

Mon, 15 Aug 2005 04:44:29 GMT

ok. iknow with all the super heavy shit thats going on right now in the show is hard to ignore. but this is a post to ponder something lighter and a little odd.
the opening credits have always been beautiful and lovely and well thought out. but tonite when i saw that part at the end where there's the tree in the field and then the line goes straight down to make a little box around the title "six feet under" then the words disappear and the tree shrivels a dn disappears. now ive watched this every episode for the past 5 years but this time i thought of nate in the ground under (or close to) a tree. i thought to myself, wow, i wonder if allen ball new this whole time that nate (representing the spirit of six feet under) would die and be placed under a tree and eventually even the tree will die and there will be no marker no nothing. its just gone. do you guys think that symbolism was thought out way ahead of time (5 years ago) or is it just a coincidence?
like i said, my brain needed a break from digesting this last episode, so bear with me...

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The music...

Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:49:47 GMT

I have to say besides excellent acting inside this show, I have always loved the diverse soundtrack to each episode... I was looking through the music credits, and they scan all genres for the perfect song...

For more information about the music on Six Feet Under check out http://www.supermusicvision.com (music supervisors Gary Calamar or Thomas Golubic)...

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~SPOILER~

CurvyCurvz — Wed, 03 Aug 2005 09:35:26 GMT

Okay folks - no real evidence that the following is true-
I came across this while scouring the internet for anything at all about the rest of the season.
Stop here if you don't wanna know!
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22. I've viewed the series finale and can confirm the following:
1.) Maya is being raised by Ruth while the truth about Brenda is reiterated (She had an affair with someone after she lost the child in the first half of season five---this must've been brought to light in the second-to-last episode. The baby she's carrying isnt Nate's!!!). Ruth reconciles with George.
2.) Maggie is pregnant with Nate's child (It will be a boy)
3.) David complies with Nate's final burial wishes.
4.) Claire finds happiness with her lawyer friend and continues a relationship with him.
5.) Rico and his wife reconcile. Rico accepts the business as a whole while David becomes a silent partner.
6.) David and Kieth formally adopt the children.
7.) Nate appears to each major character and says his emotional good-byes to each of them.
I've skipped a lot of other stuff. Including the heart-felt farewells between Nate and all the other characters---it isn't tantamount to anything ever written by Alan Ball. (He's been quoted as saying that he cried while writing it and that the characters cried themselves while filming it) Definitely a "NOT-TO-BE MISSED" episode. It couldn't have ended any better.

Source: http://www.tvsquad.com/2005/07/31/six-feet-under-ecotone/2/#comments

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Nate in the afterlife...

Thu, 11 Aug 2005 21:49:29 GMT

so after mulling over all the obvious craziness of last week's episode, i started picking apart the tinier crumbs. what was nate saying when ruth saw him in the dream? was he talking to his dad? I thought he sadi something like, "what did it feel like when you figured out hwere you were?" something to that effect. like maybe he was asking his dad what it felt like for him when he realized he had died. nate seems at peace. that all he really wanted all along anyway. im glad he finally feels relaxed and chill.
but what about...

ruth?
- fuck man. shes still in shock i think. the preview with her freaking out "WHERES MY DAUGHTER?!?!" haas me concerned moreso than before. she's already cracked, what the heck is she gonna do now???

david?
- i know things seem all peachy keen in their cleaver/no beaver household but i have my suspicions about the dude who "babysat" them when keith ran out on one of his bitch errands. its clear that guy is a sick perv. why doesnt anyone question his intentions with the boys? and with keith, things dont just go from violent bullshit to happy huxtable dad. he aint no cosby, thats for sure. and poor poor victimized david. the poor guy has lost any masculinity he ever had. hes such a ninny now and he needs some help. c'mon dave, ask someone for help. please.

claire?
- i am confused on the clair front. i dont trust lawyers. russell tweaked beyond belief. gross. and of course theres billy. (id give her shit about bad choices when it comes to dating the insane, but I'm not as innocent as all that anyway. ) she had her mouth hanging wide open the entire episode so im not sure what to think. especially if she goes missing....

brenda and billy?
sittin in a tree, k-i-s-s-i-n-g. they can have each other for all i care. i mean, they already did, right? just get sweet maya out of their picture. please. someone better step up to the plate here. the fischer's are dissolving...

Rico and his wife?
i just dont think it will work. even with nate's death, once a cheater always a cheater and she knows that. plus rico was gettin hot fixin up that dead mexican girl anyway.

thats my take. If i was nate, id feel relieved to be on the other side of all that too. no wonder he's finally relaxed.

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Ball's big inspiration

CurvyCurvz — Wed, 10 Aug 2005 05:24:50 GMT

as I recently read, for the ideas behind creating Six Feet Under was a 1965 film entitled: The Loved One http://imdb.com/title/tt0059410/

My sister, whom i adored and who is also dead, used to quote a line from this film to me regularly. If you've not seen TLO - I think you'll enjot it.

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Favorite episodes

NaughtyKitty — Sun, 14 Aug 2005 02:57:10 GMT

I thought this had been done, but I couldn't find the thread in the archives, so...as the series comes to a close and we say goodbye to the Fishers and their satellites, what was your favorite episode, scene, whatever from the last 5 years?

I just had a reminder of how amazingly poignant the yard sale bonfire was.

Oh, and by the way, if you get a chance to see the *Cut by Cut* short on the 4th season DVD,(or on Demand, if you have it) watch it. The editing in this series is impeccable.

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Finale Wake

gangsterboyscout — Sat, 06 Aug 2005 17:37:31 GMT

Sis and I and our locally SFU junkie friends are throwing a wake on the night of the finale. You're all invited :^D
Short of living in san jose and grieving with us what are you all going to do that night?

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Ruth AKA Frances Conroy

Dina — Fri, 12 Aug 2005 22:08:30 GMT

Just saw the new Jim Jarmusch film "Broken Flowers" last night....it was fabulous. Anyway, Frances conroy plays one of Bill Murray's ex-girlfriends, and she was just as whacked as Ruth but only more of a "perfect wife" living in a perfect white sanitized house....HA she was great!

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lauren ambrose salon interview

Wed, 10 Aug 2005 16:59:20 GMT

here is an interview cut and pasted from salon.com. viewing requires a premium membership so i thought i would share with y'all:

Scene Stealer
After making Claire Fisher the most achingly realistic young woman on TV, we can't wait to see what Lauren Ambrose does next.

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By Lori Leibovich

Aug. 10, 2005 | The cast of HBO's "Six Feet Under" is among television's most talented, but still, Lauren Ambrose stands out. Part of it is her luminous, Botticelli-like beauty. But mostly it's the way she imbues her character, Claire, with layers of vulnerability and a mercurial complexity; just as quickly as Claire can slay someone with a caustic one-liner, her pool-blue eyes can well with tears.

The frequently tortured, brutally sarcastic, unlucky-in-love youngest member of the Fisher family could easily be played as slacker caricature. Over the course of five seasons, though, Claire has consistently evolved -- she's searched for her identity in art and in men, tried to make peace with her family's gloomy business -- and yet she hasn't always moved forward or learned from her mistakes. No matter how much she wants to be treated like an adult, she can't seem to forsake her adolescent poutiness.

Ambrose, 27, grew up in New Haven, Conn., the daughter of a caterer father and design consultant mother. She attended Catholic school, had roles in several off-Broadway productions, and studied piano and opera -- even singing arias at weddings and, yes, funerals. Ambrose has had small roles in a series of teen movies ("Psycho Beach Party," "Can't Hardly Wait") and a starring role in the 2000 independent film "Swimming." She married Sam Handel, a photographer (whose photo of his wife accompanies this article), four years ago.

In the final season of "Six Feet Under," Claire is dealing with three issues that have dogged her since the beginning of the series: sex, art and family. She has dumped her live-in bipolar boyfriend Billy, had a one-night stand with a friend of her older brother, Nate, erupted at her mother, and reluctantly taken a temp job at a law firm, where she has entered an unlikely relationship with a young Iraq-war-supporting, pop-music-loving Republican lawyer.

Salon spoke with Ambrose by phone from her Los Angeles home two days after she finished shooting the final episode of "Six Feet Under" -- and before the broadcast of this season's big surprise. As we chatted, she packed boxes for her move back to the East Coast.

So, you just finished wrapping the show?

That's right. The day before yesterday was the last day of "Six Feet Under" shooting.

How do you feel? Was it emotional?

Yeah. We've all been together for a long time and have strong connections to each other. It's going to be such a strange adjustment to not see those people. After five years, the show has become our lives.

Actors always claim that it was "just like a family on set." Was that actually your experience?

There are some people that I've developed really close relationships with, but mostly it was just a really great place to work -- a really great job. And it's just strange that the job is over. It's not like leaving a job where you can go back and visit the office and people are still there -- it's just done. Everyone scatters and goes off and does different things.

Does it feel like the right time to end the show?

Well, it really doesn't matter what I think. It was Alan Ball's choice to wrap things up this year, to find some closure and bring it all to an end -- and thereby that makes it the right choice, because it's his vision. I think it's a testament to his good taste to end it now, rather than carry on and carry on and struggle to come up with new story lines and whatever happens with those shows that go on for a hundred years.

It's sometimes difficult to watch the show week after week, to see so much dysfunction and despair. The first four episodes of this season were especially bleak. How do you deal -- or did you deal -- with the intensity of the material? Was it ever difficult to click back into everyday life?

Well, working with this kind of subject matter is very difficult at times, but it's also kind of exhilarating as an actor to get to deal with the big issues -- death, love and life. So for me it was exciting when I had to work with material that was very sad and dramatic. But there were things that we did this year, especially toward the end of the season, that nearly killed us all -- it was very exhausting and very intense, but somehow it made sense to have it get very difficult and very taxing and really exhausting and tiring and challenging as it ended. And that made it very painful to leave.

But yeah, there have been things over the years that I've seen and done that when I think about it in retrospect, were very hard.

Like what?

My character wasn't involved in the family business, so I wasn't dealing with all the gore and the bodies and all that. But just the moments that I did come up against it, I'd have to try to make it normal. And it does become normal, because you see it every day, just like the characters do. There was this one funny moment, I think it was last year, where blood started coming up out of the sink where I had just put my cereal bowl. That was pretty horrifying -- but also really funny and kind of a good memory now that I look back at it.

Was it ever hard to play a character that was younger than you?

The biggest difference between Claire and myself is the age, not that there's such a huge age discrepancy. I'm 27 and Claire is about five years younger than I am. It was the perfect age gap between the character and myself, because it was close enough that I could really remember what it was like to be her age.

Do you see yourself in Claire at all, or are you two very different?

I can relate to Claire's relationship with her artwork. Since I work in a creative field I've had similar struggles about whether I can do this, or should do this, and if I will be able to do this -- all of that is resonant to anyone working in a creative field.

What about her angst and her sarcasm? Claire always has the wittiest comebacks.

It's so convenient when Alan Ball pens your quips! People always say, "Claire is so me." It's funny how people like to think of themselves as clever -- as do I. I wish I could be as funny as Claire.

I think a lot of Claire's edge comes from growing up in the environment that she did, with the family she did. She was sort of an afterthought. Her brothers were practically adults when she was born. She was fairly neglected because the business was more important than parenting the last child; she developed an interesting perspective on life because of that.

To me, one of the most interesting relationships on the show is between Claire and her mother, Ruth. They do this dance, one that I think is very specific to mothers and daughters. They do battle with one another -- this season, Ruth is furious at Claire for dropping out of school -- but then they always come back together, slowly and deliberately. They need each other, but they don't want to admit it.

For me too, it's been my favorite ongoing thread, that mother-daughter dynamic, because I think it's very real. What makes it so real -- and this is a testament to the writing -- is that they're both flawed and the progress they make in their relationship stalls. They don't continue to heal or move forward. They make a little progress and then revert backwards. Claire acts like she's 12 but wants to be treated like an adult. Claire is flawed and yet struggling to be noble and do the right thing -- she wants to figure out what her life is about.

I always looked forward to doing scenes with Frances [Conroy] -- who is one of the greatest actresses to ever live -- in the kitchen. The kitchen was sort of a touchstone: We would always go back there. No matter what tangents our characters would being go off on and/or what wild experiences Claire would have with this boyfriend or that boyfriend or whatever, we'd come back to the kitchen and it would sort of be like, oh, OK, this is who I am, this is where we started.

You got married when you were 23. What it's been like to be settled in your 20s at a time when most people your age, Claire included, are experimenting with their identities and hopping from one relationship to the next?

Well, it's been my experience, so I can't really compare it fairly. I just met the right person, and I really can't imagine my life being any different or any better.

Claire's relationships with men have been sort of disastrous. As a viewer, there have been so many times -- especially with Gabe and Olivier, but Russell and Billy too -- where I just wanted to pause the scene, step onto the set, and shake Claire, and say "What are you doing? You're too smart to be falling for this shit!"

Yeah, that was actually frustrating for me at times. And sometimes I had the same impulse you describe, but I tried not to focus on that and just play this other person. Having her go from one boyfriend to the next was boring for me at times. But television is so bizarre -- it's such a strange little medium, for a drama especially, because the writers are trying to come up with story lines that are interesting and will keep people coming back and the actors want it to be totally organic. But that would mean you might have an hour of people eating breakfast, which would be a drag. So there has to be some kind of middle ground, and it becomes the actors' job to smooth out any inconsistencies and follow the trajectory that is handed us and just make it work.

That's actually been a really fun challenge, once I melted into it and succumbed to it, rather than being like, "Oh my god! What are you doing?" I guess the control freak part of me was like, "Where is this going? What are we doing?" but then after a few years of that, it was like, "Oh, who cares, that's the job -- if it doesn't make sense, figure it out." Unless something was really glaring, and if something really didn't make sense, it was always a really nice collaborative environment, and no one would bristle or be upset if there were questions asked or anything.

You looked very different at the beginning of this season. Have you lost a lot of weight?

I lost a few pounds, nothing dramatic, but even my friends are like, "You look totally 'ano.'" I think it just showed up in my face. When we were on hiatus I did a Sam Shepard play, "Buried Child," in London at the National Theatre, and I was just working, working every night and working onstage and walking, and I think I just burned a lot more calories than I do in L.A. Also, the food in London was really bad. I didn't want to eat it, so I was cooking for myself and eating really healthy stuff like salads and chicken breasts, and I felt good. I'm also contrary by nature, and so when I'm in London seeing people shove candy bars in their mouths and smoking millions of cigarettes, it makes me want to be really healthy. But in L.A. all I want to do is go to In-N-Out Burger.

Does being in Hollywood -- and having the pressure to look a certain way, to be thin and flawless -- ever mess with your head?

When I was a lot younger, I was out here doing a screen test for "Can't Hardly Wait." It was a hard job to get and I was up against all these other actresses, but I got it. One day we were rehearsing, and the director came in and told me they wanted to get me a trainer. And I thought, "Oh, fuck, I'm getting fired, they want to get me an acting coach! I can't believe this! What I am I going to do?" I said, "I haven't gotten much direction, but if you can just tell me what you want, I'm sure I can adjust the character..." An exercise trainer was just the last thing on my mind. So they got me some trainer and I said, "Oh yeah, yeah, I'll do that" but kind of ignored it.

So you didn't do it?

Yeah, I mean I was really skinny then, too. I just have a baby face. Some of these girls now are really emaciated -- it's an epidemic. But I'm Italian. I love food; it's a point of joy in my life. I love eating and cooking for others and eating with them, and my dad is a cook, so I have a pretty good relationship with food.

So, the name of this column is Scene Stealer. If you had to pick one scene in all five seasons of "Six Feet Under" that you think you really nailed, or stole, what would it be?

Well, there's some stuff coming up at the end of the series that I'm really proud of. But the first thing that comes to mind are the fantasy numbers because they're just so outrageous and fun, and getting to sing and go into a recording studio and record the music and then do the choreography and then lip sync -- it's like making a little music video. And then there's one scene in the first season, an episode that Kathy Bates directed of me and Peter Krause [Nate] that she just let us do in the master. I was upset about some boyfriend and it was an emotional scene about my father's death, and instead of going in for the traditional coverage, she just let it play as a two-shot, let it play in the master, and that was pretty rewarding. It's like a play -- it couldn't be fiddled with, couldn't be edited -- that was all we shot. It was pretty cool.

Has working around death for all these years made you think about your own death at all -- and what you might want done to your body when you die?

I'm not interested in being embalmed and set out on display. I think the Jews have it right, you know, stick 'em in the ground. But we learned about this kind of funeral process: It's a "green" funeral. You're buried in this very idyllic setting -- sort like a park -- and there aren't markers and there aren't even coffins. You're just in a shroud, a beautiful shroud. I'm not really interested in being pumped full of chemicals and painted with salmon-colored lipstick.

So what's next for you now that the show is over?

I'm going to go to my little house in New England to chill out for a while. I was going to do a play, but the last episode ended up being so enormous and cut into rehearsals so badly that I had to drop out of it, which was fine. It was worth it to have this really cool, enormous final episode

Are loose ends going to be tied up, or is a lot going to be left to our imagination?

Kind of both. I mean, there ain't going to be a reunion.

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Lori Leibovich is editor of Salon Life.

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